Hmm, I'd say there is a big difference between A pastor saying crazy things, and YOUR pastor doing the same. While I can't control what either would say, I can control which church I attend and whoes council I listen to.
Posted at 2008-05-02 08:46:07 [PermaLink]I disagree with the contention that Robertson and Falwell didn't lose influence. They effectively disappeared from the national stage.
Posted at 2008-05-02 10:01:15 [PermaLink]"Obama was particularly close to Wright"
I'll say. Obama described Wright as his longtime "spiritual advisor" whom he "can no more disown ... than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me."
Robertson and Falwell have usually apologized, in some fashion, after their more colorful brain farts.
Wright...? It's in your face, man.
And Obama, spending twenty years listening to the guy, in a congregation which cheers his sermons, has been deeply influenced by him. It's the window into Obama that is the point. Not what happens or doesn't happen to pastors who shoot their mouths off.
Really ?
And I suppose the blanket condemnation of ALL Christian churches and preaching by secular leftists isn't enough?
And BTW .... you don't have to sit there and take it! When your church or your pastor is wrong it's duty to say so.
If they won't listen you can walk out.
In the Obama's world it was his wife that had him sitting there for 20 years. That's two problems with him .... unless he willingly listened to Wright's white hating racism..
1) He Sat there for 20 years.
2) He allowed himself to be told to sit there.
Who says that Wright has lost influence?
I think that the media overplay Falwell's and Robertson's influence.
What evidence is there that Obama does not agree with Wright 100%?
Posted at 2008-05-02 11:16:32 [PermaLink]That'd be the "pathetic buffoon" coin, I take it?
Posted at 2008-05-02 11:18:32 [PermaLink]Falwell and Robertson ministries pour millions [audited independently] each year into food programs and emergency relief all over the world. How about Rev. Wright and his church? It would be interesting to compare.
Posted at 2008-05-02 13:05:04 [PermaLink]I don't think it is at all true that Revs Falwell and Robertson did not lose influence. The MSM has pretty well made them a laughing stock. The so-called Reverends who have not lost influence despite their decades long history of outrageously bigoted comments are Jackson and Sharpton.
Posted at 2008-05-02 13:39:16 [PermaLink]Charles Krauthammer:
"The 'Race' Speech Revisited"
[External Link]
Mark
Ottawa
"The Wrights of the right"
Uh! This rightist is an atheist. Please refrain from associating me with leftist sky-deity-believers who preach hate and intolerance.
"God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."
True according to Christ.
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
Matthew 10:33
'You helped this happen.'
True. They all support open borders. The perps were illegal aliens.
"the anti-Christ."
After Vatican II... "Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures..." many Catholics would agree. It does follow from the Holy Scriptures, Matthew 10:33 Christ denied the Jews. Now the Church denies Christ as God, thus the anti-Christ label.
DJ,
I can quote any number of Hollywood movies to refute you.
I would like to see you refute the Left wing violation of church and state by the Obamas' and Jesse Jackson's of the world.
I just can't trust African American religiously bigoted racists.
Sad. Isn't it?