Comments: There's a use for everything
Comment by John B:

"they were dressed like clowns," wearing Che Guevara shirts, .."

That quote should get wide exposure. Personally, I prefer this shirt: [External Link]

Posted at 2008-07-03 08:43:32 [PermaLink]
Comment by The Self-Loathing Multiculturalist:

"That most repulsive of fashion accessories"

Really? I would have nominated a Nazi armband, or one of those white-power t-shirts. Or one of those "Free Mark Steyn" t-shirts.

Posted at 2008-07-03 09:01:06 [PermaLink]
Comment by Clive:

I knew that shirt would come in handy. [External Link]

Posted at 2008-07-03 10:45:03 [PermaLink]
Comment by Dudley Morris:

"Really? I would have nominated a Nazi armband, or one of those white-power t-shirts."

They're about equivalent, but one form of totalitarianism is of course more popular among the "bien pensants".

Posted at 2008-07-03 10:59:08 [PermaLink]
Comment by The Toronto Metrosexual:

"They're about equivalent, but one form of totalitarianism is of course more popular among the "bien pensants"."

Now, to be fair to Che, he didn't kill quite as many people as Hitler.

Now here is an opportunity to ask an interesting question: if I wore a t-shirt with a picture of Pinochet, or Alfredo Stroessner, would that make me worse than a person who wear's a Guevera shirt? Better? The same?

What is the calculus we are using to determine how evil some one is?

Posted at 2008-07-03 12:06:49 [PermaLink]
Comment by Bruce Rheinstein:

"The pilots, she said, were posing as members of a relief organization, but 'they were dressed like clowns,' wearing Che Guevara shirts, so she assumed they were rebels."

The Washington Post has a good piece, and notes that:

"[the] ring, commanded by a rebel known by the alias Cesar, was tricked into believing that the FARC's leader had called for the hostages to be brought to him. Yesterday, two white helicopters arrived in a jungle clearing where the hostages were being held."

I wonder which relief organization the rebels would pose as for purposes of helicopter air transport? I hope it isn't this one. [External Link]

Posted at 2008-07-03 12:16:28 [PermaLink]
Comment by Bruce Rheinstein:

"Now, to be fair to Che, he didn't kill quite as many people as Hitler."

That's because he was shot before he had the chance. His bloodlust offended even Fidel.

Posted at 2008-07-03 12:18:38 [PermaLink]
Comment by Otter:

"I wonder which relief organization the rebels would pose as for purposes of helicopter air transport?"

I was wondering which "relief organization" FARC would so readily trust to transport prisoners for them. (My reading of the various articles is that they thought the pilots were genuine NGO members, not rebels posing as such.)

Posted at 2008-07-03 12:30:17 [PermaLink]
Comment by Bruce Rheinstein:

"Undercover Colombian commandoes flew to the jungle camp in a civilian helicopter, claiming to be from a fictitious non-government organisation."
Telegraph [External Link]

Looks like you're right.

Posted at 2008-07-03 13:08:49 [PermaLink]
Comment by Ran:

Heh. Someone made a profit on that shirt, too.

BTW John, I prefer this shirt:

[External Link]

Posted at 2008-07-03 14:39:07 [PermaLink]
Comment by John B:

"if I wore a t-shirt with a picture of Pinochet, or Alfredo Stroessner, would that make me worse than a person who wear's a Guevera shirt? Better? The same? "

Like I see Pinochet/Stroessner shirts every day in Toronto - or even at Conservative Party meetings for that matter.

Ran: Perhaps you could send one to Mayor David Miller (envisioning exploding head).

Posted at 2008-07-03 14:51:33 [PermaLink]
Comment by Bruce Rheinstein:

"if I wore a t-shirt with a picture of Pinochet... would that make me worse than a person who wear's a Guevera shirt?"

Why compromise, you can wear a shirt with both! [External Link]

Posted at 2008-07-03 16:00:57 [PermaLink]
Comment by Ran:

John... Miller's head would 'implode'. [Vacuum's don't 'blow up'.]

I love Che's last whine - words to the effect that "I'm worth far more to you alive than dead". I disagree... A lot of shops have earned profits on shirt sales - sadly bringing more stability and happiness to workers than that dead cretin ever did.

Posted at 2008-07-03 16:52:08 [PermaLink]
Comment by mahmood :

Wearing the Che shirt?...so that's the secret to getting past the doorman at cbc party headquarters...might even be the key to the washroom(the nice one, not the minion one.)

Posted at 2008-07-04 04:24:45 [PermaLink]
Comment by The Self-Loving Uniculturalist:

You know, I often note that right-wing blogger take themselves way too seriously (not that fighting the war on terror from your keyboard isn't stressful). And this thread was proving me wrong. That Pino-Che t-shirt was legitimately hilarious.

And then, you had to go and spoil it all, but saying something like "Wearing the Che shirt?...so that's the secret to getting past the doorman at cbc party headquarters".

Personally, when I want to offend lefty poseur types, I much prefer the "I have no idea who this is" Che t-shirt. Not that it stopped a neo-Nazi from giving me a seig heil. Though to be fair to the nazi, he probably was illiterate.

Posted at 2008-07-04 09:44:43 [PermaLink]
Comment by J.M. Heinrichs:

If your neo-Nazi was being true to his roots, he'd be a Lefty.

Cheers

Posted at 2008-07-04 21:43:25 [PermaLink]
Comment by Mike H:

"You know, I often note that right-wing blogger take themselves way too seriously (not that fighting the war on terror from your keyboard isn't stressful)."

Much Loathed, I must give you credit for not taking yourself too seriously. Your willingness to embrace your own considerable intellectual limitations is refreshing, if not nearly as amusing as you intend.

I expect the office water cooler is a very lonely place for you.

Posted at 2008-07-05 06:35:51 [PermaLink]
Comment by The Self-Loving Uniculturalist:

"If your neo-Nazi was being true to his roots, he'd be a Lefty. "

No, I'm afraid nazism is a phenomena of the political right. Stalinists were more of the extremist left slant. I see this is a common point of confusion amongst right-wing bloggers. Allow me to explain.

You see, the term left-wing actually has it's origins in the French revolution, and refers to those who sat at the left side of the General Assembly. Namely, non-clergy and non-aristocrats. Actually, they were sort of primitive capitalists, not exactly the poor and downtrodden, but more representative of the general population than some nobleman from Versailles.

Since that time, the term left has been used to identify political movements associated with helping the poor, the underpriviledged and those with limited political power. One can agree or disagree with those goals, but that is what it means.

Given that the Nazis were explicitly in favour of crushing the weak, and destroying democracy, it's a bit surprising that anyone could be so easily duped into believing that Nazi's are leftists. Honestly, outside of the Communist Party of Canada, I don't think there is a single group of people so insulated from reality, so easily manipulated and so ignorant of the world as right-wing bloggers.

Then again, if you weren't, I'd have to spend my time making fun of people on rabble, and that is a really depressing crowd. You make a much more fun punching bag. Especially that Mike H guy.

Hey Mike, I was in Italy a month back. Didn't see in Muslims. You know what that means? THEY'RE ALL UNDERCOVER!!! THE ISLAMOFASCIST CONSPIRACY HAS MOVED UNDERGROUND!! WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE ENEMY IS ANYMORE!!!

Posted at 2008-07-05 07:56:24 [PermaLink]
Comment by mahmood:

Ouch!...Mike H struck(punched)a nerve...now that's funny...biff! pow! kerbang! and UUUFFF!...hehheh.

Posted at 2008-07-05 09:59:23 [PermaLink]
Comment by Mike H:

"You make a much more fun punching bag. Especially that Mike H guy."

You're such a brute, Multi. Fortunately, you punch far below your weight class. As long as you're having fun, though, that's the main thing. Punch away, all day long. I'm fine with it. Reminds me of my 50 pound, 7 year old nephew wearing himself out when he uses me as a punching bag.

"Hey Mike, I was in Italy a month back. Didn't see in Muslims. You know what that means?"

No, I don't, you illiterate fop. For what it's worth though, I can't see in Muslims either.

Posted at 2008-07-05 15:04:30 [PermaLink]
Comment by The Self-Loathing Multiculturalist:

"No, I don't, you illiterate fop. For what it's worth though, I can't see in Muslims either."

Can you explain what "I can't see in Muslims either" means?

"Ouch!...Mike H struck(punched)a nerve...now that's funny...biff! pow! kerbang! and UUUFFF!...hehheh."

Again, confusion, can you explain how J.M. Heinrichs struck a nerve? J.M. Heinrichs made an incorrect statement and I, being the helpful person I am, corrected him. How is this striking a nerve by Mike H?

Posted at 2008-07-05 23:05:33 [PermaLink]
Comment by Mike H:

Drink much, Multi?

"Can you explain what "I can't see in Muslims either" means?"

No, I can't. I was simply repeating your own incomprehensible statement. I'm tempted to say you're losing it, but you never had it in the first place.

Posted at 2008-07-05 23:46:45 [PermaLink]
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