You might as well ask, have any of you 'conservatives' who protest attacks on your faith also protested attacks on the faith of others?
Never mind. Any excuse to bash the left - even though every place I've visited of the lefty side of the blogosphere has a) defended the right of free speech/expression on the part of the newspapers while also b) condemned the violence on the part of boneheaded islamic mobs.
Dont let that get in the way of your caricature though. No matter what happens, somehow its all the left's fault.
Except that conservatives like you are rapidly turning into the cartoons.
tingles: I'm an atheist. While I may find depictions of, or references to, one religion or another "offensive"--for one reason or another--I do not believe that is sufficient reason to prevent their publication or exhibition.
You appear not to have noticed that the majority of the MSM writers I have used in my posts in support of the view above can by no stretch of the imagination be considered "conservative":
Christie Blatchford (Globe)
Dan Gardner (Ottawa Citizen)
Jamil Momand (LA Times)
Ibn Warraq (Der Spiegel)
Rex Murphy (Globe)
And I have not tried to "bash the left"--rather the punditocracy, politicians and "intellectuels" have been, as it were, targets (though I did take a back-handed swipe at "progressives)".
I think Damian has taken a generally similar approach in his postings. I am almost driven to the conclusion that you wrote your comment without actually reading the posts on this blog.
Mark
Ottawa
Hey "tingles": if you oppose the violence, then Damian is not talking about you. Why are you concerned?
Posted at 2006-02-10 15:07:46 [PermaLink]A post at "Dawg's Blog" (and Dr. Dawg is no "Rabble" type; he can be fun to debate--esp. when one gets into Marxism):
"Of free speech, hate and hypocrisy"
[External Link]
And this comment, very relevant to the discussion:
[External Link]
'I hate to say it, Dawg, but your post is a classic straw man argument. You clearly think calling someone "The Right" is a huge insult. You then go on to say The Right (whoever they are) believes this is freedom of speech issue, but they don't defend free speech they don't like. As if this is a fact, or can even be proved.
The Right is a WHOLE LOT of people. Ascribing motives and beliefs and hypocrisy to a vast population never makes sense. I betcha there are right wingers who do defend stuff they don't like.
And as someone else has pointed out, there are people defending the free speech angle who aren't on The Right. Me, for example. I'm so socialist I live in a housing co-op, support the NDP, give change to homeless people, and hang out with anarchists.
The hate speech angle is one that makes me all nervous and icky. Yes, people should be allowed to say whatever they want. Should they be allowed to spew racist nonsense? Probably.
Yeah, I don't like idiots saying racist drivel, but then again, I don't like a lot of things. Making stuff I don't like illegal means Don Cherry would be in a cell somewhere. And I don't even watch hockey. So lets not go there.
But, quite frankly, I looked at the 12 cartoons and they seemed INCREDIBLY tame. No where near as "hateful" as people seem to make out. One shows a cartoonist nervously drawing a stick figure depiction of Mohammed and then trying to hide it. Is this a hate crime?
This issue gets more and more surreal every day. I'm starting to think it's the perfect modern example of "all people are crazy." Sadly, it's a farce with a death toll.
Nikolaus Maack | Homepage | 02.10.06 - 3:55 pm |'
Mark
Ottawa
What passes for moderation in the Christian community -- "I share your rage but don't torch that fetus" -- is nothing of the sort. It is simply a cynical way to endorse the goals of the mob without endorsing its means. It is fraudulent because, while pretending to uphold the principle of religious sensitivity, it is interested only in this instance of religious insensitivity.
Have any of these "moderates" ever protested the grotesque caricatures of Muslims and, most especially, Jews that are broadcast throughout America on a daily basis?..
A true Christian is one who protests desecrations of all faiths. Those who don't are not moderates but hypocrites, opportunists and agents for the rioters, merely using different means to advance the same goal: to impose upon the rest of us, with its traditions of freedom of speech, a set of taboos that is exclusive to the Christian faith. These are not defenders of religion but Christian supremacists trying to force their dictates upon the rest of us.
And these "moderates" are aided and abetted by Republican "moderates" who publish pictures of aborted fetuses and creationism as science deserving public subsidy, but who are seized with a sudden religious sensitivity when the subject is Jesus...
Nice work, God of Biscuits. You pasted the original article, but changed every "Muslim" to "Christian." Very clever. Now if only you could give your piece the coherence and non sci-fi feel of C.K.'s article, that would be even more clever.
Posted at 2006-02-11 18:29:13 [PermaLink]