Mr. Wrzesnewskyj has the right to come to his own conclusions but he is the associate foreign affairs critic for his party and therefore speaks for his party. The Liberals can't say he doesn't speak for the party but leave him in his current position. Whoops, I forgot. This the Liberals and they are past masters at sucking and blowing at the same time.
Posted at 2006-08-23 08:40:49 [PermaLink]John you're right. I forgot that. It changes everything.
Posted at 2006-08-23 09:35:22 [PermaLink]Harpercite strategy: distort the facts to divert the harper middle-east screw ups onto the liberals by lying about what Wrzesnewskyj actually said
Wrzesnewskyj was initially reported as saying that Hezbollah should be dropped from the list of terrorist organizations. He denied having said that.
"I've said all along that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization and will continue to be," Wrzesnewskyj said on Monday from Lebanon.
"Where I have difficulty is with the legislation that says a group on the list cannot be communicated with."
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divide and conquer, even if it means splitting up canada even further
Jacobin, in all the reports I heard he said that Hez should stay on the terrorist list but that Canada should talk to groups on the list.
I think the problem is visiting Lebanon which is run, in part, by a terror group and then issuing strong statements without conferring with his caucus when he is in this role a spokesperson for the party.
lebanon has only two hezbollah members in government out of aprox 120 seats
i believe it's important to understand that hezbollah was created as a direct result of ISRAELIS ILLEGAL OCCUPATION in southern lebanon in the 80's, and effectively drove the israelis out of southern lebanon in 2000
so how in the hell are we suppose to negotiate a cease fire and lasting peace if we cannot have diplomatic relations with hezbollah, which has a political arm?
volpe, brison, rae and bennet all jumped the gun and stabbed there colleague in the back before actually talking to Mr. Wrzesnewskyj, which now we know what he said was twisted and distorted out of context
I'd like to ask Borys a question. No, not about the M.E. nor about Hezbollah's "social programme" credentials.....or Castro's physique.
No, I'd like to ask him why he's so gullible and so easily led astray.
Jacobin,
>lebanon has only two hezbollah members in government out of aprox 120 seats
Yeah but. In their unelected capacity, they're running half the country free of government control, they have their own foreign policy and an independent military force which won't submit to the national control.
> hezbollah was created as a direct result of ISRAELIS ILLEGAL OCCUPATION in southern lebanon
Why was Israel there? Lebanon couldn't stop attacks from within Lebanese territory. And Hez didn't drive them out; they decided to leave after being preyed upon by Hez. That's different.
> so how in the hell are we suppose to negotiate a cease fire and lasting peace if we cannot have diplomatic relations with hezbollah, which has a political arm?
Maybe you have to speak to them. Maybe you have to defeat them. Since they have extreme goals, compromise doesn't seem possible.
> which now we know what he said was twisted and distorted out of context
As I said, I think his message was clear.
FWIW - Wrzesnewskyj has resigned.
"Liberal MP Boris Wrzesnewskyj has resigned as deputy foreign affairs critic following the furore over comments he made about the Middle East crisis, CTV News has learned."
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"they're running half the country free of government control"
--so what, so do big oil companies in canada
--The government of Lebanon has accepted Al-Muqawama al-Islamiyya as a legitimate resistance organisation. The Prime Minister of Lebanon said that "the continued presence of Israeli occupation of Lebanese lands in the Shebaa Farms region is what contributes to the presence of Hezbollah weapons. The international community must help us in (getting) an Israeli withdrawal from Shebaa Farms so we can solve the problem of Hezbollah's arms
"Why was Israel there? Lebanon couldn't stop attacks from within Lebanese territory"
--another lie, The Government of Israel gave a green light for the 1982 INVASION as a response to the assassination attempt against Israel's ambassador to the United Kingdom
--hezbollah was formed to combat the Israeli occupation AFTER the 1982 invasion of Lebanon
"Maybe you have to speak to them. Maybe you have to defeat them"
--can you defeat an ideology using guns and bombs? no
--this war has only strengten hezbollah, and won even more support from the lebanese
"Since they have extreme goals, compromise doesn't seem possible"
--have we tried? and isn't that what Wrzesnewskyj was suggesting we (canada) due, even if they are on canada's terrorist organization list