Comments: Indians and Ipperwash
Comment by TJS:

"There's 30,000 miles of railway lines in this country and more than 50,000 miles of (oil and gas) pipelines," says Nelson, chief of the Anishinabe First Nation, south of Winnipeg.

"The reality is that there's no army that can actually protect all of that. Not the United States army, not the Canadian army, not any."..



If that's not a terrorist threat, I don't know what is.

Posted at 2007-06-03 09:20:22 [PermaLink]
Comment by Annon:

"There's 30,000 miles of railway lines in this country and more than 50,000 miles of (oil and gas) pipelines," says Nelson, chief of the Anishinabe First Nation, south of Winnipeg.

"The reality is that there's no army that can actually protect all of that. Not the United States army, not the Canadian army, not any."

There is an answer to such terrorism...
...it's called genocide...

The indians had best be carefull, as to all the railroads and pipelines they intend to destroy.!
They just might open a can of worms that may never close.

Posted at 2007-06-03 09:28:08 [PermaLink]
Comment by TJS:

There may not be enough soldiers in the army to watch all pipelines and railroads, but there are more than enough to round up and arrest every native in the country and level every reserve until the terrorist attacks on us stop. Just try it and see.

Posted at 2007-06-03 09:58:36 [PermaLink]
Comment by anonymous:

Why are the majority of Canadians being held hostage by a minority Indian faction.

When I hear about the residential school commercial that ends with "the healing continues"....it makes me sick. It's as if people are going to spend their whole life "healing" rather than living.

There are other victims of sexual abuse that won't be compensated financially....and some of them are Indian who were abused sexually by other Indians. What about them?

Posted at 2007-06-03 14:41:48 [PermaLink]
Comment by DJ:

The Jewish Justice Sidney Linden is no stranger to aiding and abetting potential terrorists. Discrimination is indivisible. And Canada's Anglo-Celtic whites are Nazi racists who need to be kept down. First they come for the Muslims, then the aboriginals and then the Jews.

"In Canada, Mark Harding was sentenced to 340 hours of community service — that is, indoctrination — under the direction of Mohammad Ashraf, general secretary of the Islamic Society of North America in Mississauga, Ontario. Judge Sidney B. Linden's 1998 decision was based on Canada's hate-crimes law. The judge determined Harding was guilty of "false allegations about the adherents of Islam calculated to arouse fear and hatred of them in all non-Muslim people."

Harding's crime was to distribute pamphlets outside a public high school. His materials listed atrocities committed by Muslims in foreign lands. The pamphlet said: "The Muslims who commit these crimes are no different than the Muslim believers living here" and that "Toronto is definitely on their hit list."

[External Link]

Posted at 2007-06-03 20:03:00 [PermaLink]
Comment by John B:

Yes, there is "30,000 miles of railway lines in this country and more than 50,000 miles of (oil and gas) pipelines".

There are also many thousands of welfare cheques sent out to Indian bands every month from the Government of Canada. Any damage to said railway lines and/or pipelines should come out of those cheques. End of problem I expect.

Posted at 2007-06-04 08:10:48 [PermaLink]
Comment by John B:

DJ:

From your link: "Mohamed Elmasry, president of the Canadian Islamic Congress, said after the verdict that "spreading hate is against Canadian values and against Canadian law, and it doesn't matter the group that is victimized."

Interesting since said Elmasry is the one who stated on air that all Israelis, civilians included, were legitimate terrorist targets. I would prefer jail time over licking the boots of fanatics.

Posted at 2007-06-04 08:14:22 [PermaLink]
Comment by Dara:

Disgusting.

An open call for genocide in response to terrorism. The followup is a call for forcible confinement of natives.

At least John B. was reasonable and only wants to take away "their money", by which he means welfare, while ignoring the depravity of the comments I noted above.

Disgusting. The genocide one has been up for 24 hours, does that mean that Damian Penny supports it or that nobody reading it has thought to point it out?

Posted at 2007-06-04 08:22:49 [PermaLink]
Comment by jhuck:

Oh, quit with the fake indignation, Dara. You gave up any moral authority long ago with comments like, "Canadian soldiers are the same as terrorists..".

And I notice that you yourself aren't denouncing the "genocide" commenter, you're just disgusted that no one else has said anything. Typical hypocritical Dara.

You're disgusting, and I put you in the same category as those who call for genocide in the comments section of a blog.

Posted at 2007-06-04 08:43:01 [PermaLink]
Comment by Bruce Rheinstein:

"does that mean that Damian Penny supports it"

Because, you know, Damian is morally responsible for every comment. Imagine what would happen to The Guardian's comments section if they were held to the same standard.

Posted at 2007-06-04 11:10:46 [PermaLink]
Comment by Sigivald:

It was Sunday, Dara. I imagine Damien was, you know, busy. It's not even HIS thread, it's Mark's.

I wasn't aware that idjits calling for obviously unreasonable things needed to be decried, but I will if you insist: Genocide is wrong, as is holding all natives (or even all members of the bands in question) responsible in any way for a terrorist fringe.

Happy?

(I will, however, assert that it's both moral and probably productive to shoot those who commit violent and lawless acts [like setting cars aflame on railroad tracks or driving a bus at the police] - during the commission of such acts - down in the streets like the dogs they are.

If not caught in commission, I suppose a lengthy prison sentence will do, though there's a lot to be said for bringing back the firing squad.

Violent insurrection is *not compatible* with democratic government, and should be treated as comparable to treason.

If the extremists among the natives want sympathy, they can try civil disobedience - which is not setting stuff on fire or driving a bus at the police.

Getting arrested for refusing to leave the park, that's civil disobedience; shame the state with the justice of your stance, and let The People use their voices to force accommodation through the normal and democratic workings of the state.

Canada is a civilized enough state, like the US in the 50s and 60s or like Britain in India, that civil disobedience is staggeringly powerful.

As the first ridiculous comments show, acting like brigands does not bring sympathy with the greater population.)

Posted at 2007-06-04 12:26:35 [PermaLink]
Comment by Dara:

Bruce,

It is actually a prosecutable offence to advocate genocide in Canada, and I would think that a Canadian lawyer might be concerned about hosting that kind of speech on his personal site. Maybe not, I don't know much about hate crime law and responsibilities regarding it.

jhuck takes the time to attack me, but as of yet (8 and counting) I'm the only one to even acknowledge in a post that there might be something wrong with what has been posted.

Posted at 2007-06-04 12:51:00 [PermaLink]
Comment by Dara:

Sigivald, it's one thing not to decry the idjits, but an entirely different thing to run along with their argument and slowly downgrade the degree of collective punishment as happened in this thread.

As for the rest of your post, I'm with you except for shooting someone lighting a car on fire. Driving a bus at police, they're worth ten points in my book.

You should see the run up to parade season in Northern Ireland: bands of masked men closing roads with burning cars or stacks of tires. Large groups intimidating neighbourhoods. All just a day outside for the Orangemen. Are you in favour of shooting them too? How about kneecapping kids who steal cars?

Posted at 2007-06-04 13:10:23 [PermaLink]
Comment by jhuck:

"..but as of yet (8 and counting) I'm the only one to even acknowledge in a post that there might be something wrong with what has been posted."

Actually, you were only acknowledging what WASN'T posted.


And I thought I made myself clear when I said, "You're disgusting, and I put you in the same category as those who call for genocide in the comments section of a blog."

Obviously I have only the utmost contempt for callers of genocide if I place them in the same category as yourself. That's one category worse than Satan, and just above Al Gore and Rosie.

Posted at 2007-06-04 13:26:12 [PermaLink]
Comment by Dara:

Well at least I beat Satan at something.

Seriously though, the dark lord doesn't like it when he's arbitrarily categorized into mid-level evil. He'll be sending Bill Clinton and Michael Moore to your house. I'd go but I'm too busy killing children for environmental crimes like not recycling their juice boxes.

But really seriously, you're an idiot jhuck.

Posted at 2007-06-04 13:50:50 [PermaLink]
Comment by jhuck:

Idiot?

Well, I never...

That's the last time I take your side to denounce genocide-wishers in a meaningless comments thread.

Posted at 2007-06-04 14:40:17 [PermaLink]
Comment by Bruce Rheinstein:

When I see over-the-top comments such as those left by Anon and TJS, I wonder if they haven't been left by someone intending to discredit the website. (I think DJ is actually serious when his answer to everything is the Joos done it.)

I mean, "There is an answer to such terrorism...
...it's called genocide..."? Get real.

Posted at 2007-06-04 15:14:11 [PermaLink]
Comment by Dara:

Bruce,

Regulars fell all over themselves to downgrade the severity of Albertanator's comments when he spoke in support of forcibly deporting every Muslim in the west. Don't see much difference between that and forcibly confining all of the natives.

Posted at 2007-06-05 10:12:55 [PermaLink]
Comment by Bruce Rheinstein:

I'll give you your point about Albertanator, but I still say that Anon smells like a troll.

Posted at 2007-06-05 11:19:04 [PermaLink]
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